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The Truth About Women

by MoonBunny @ 29. Nov. 2007. - 17:32:14

I thought I'd start a mini series about women and what it's like to be one. I will try not to get on my feminist high horse but if I do, don't worry, I'm not one of those hysterical women who gets offended if a man holds a door open. I think it's healthy to accept that men and women ARE different, and yes we do tend to fall into certain roles which are always good to challenge, but the sexism comes from assuming that the woman is not capable of opening the door, not from a man showing simple old-fashioned chivalry. Hell we need a bit more Pride and Prejudice style behaviour. (Oh and any surly Darcy types feel free to contact me. NOW)
Anyway, I thought I'd start with a few of the most cliched questions. If any men have questions they'd like to see in the mini series (that phrase makes it sound much grander than it is!), then feel free to comment, or if any women disagree with my explanations, or wish to add to them, then please comment also.
Also, gender related topics can get people's dander up (or as I used to think - dandruff), so please remember this is just a bit of fun!

- When we go to the toilet in groups it is for the following reasons.

*We are shy walking past a whole bar/pub/restaurant full of people.
*We feel like Bambi in our heels and need subtle support disguised as arm linking.
*We need to ask an urgent question such as "Are there herbs in my teeth? Cos I haven't smiled in an hour", "Do I look fat? Honestly? No HONESTLY!!!" or "Do you have a spare pad" Sorry if that last one is too much info boys but it's true.
*We just feel like having a girly giggle and comparing our control pants.
*If social situation is tedious/tense/awkward, then it is to discuss best tactics for dealing with said situation.
*But usually it's the first reason - we're just a little shy and want our girlies, that's all.

- Why do women say "If you don't know what's wrong, then there's no point me telling you"?
Well to be fair, I don't ever say this and my friends don't seem to either, they're fairly straight up and don't expect boyfriends to be psychic (except about chocolate truffle needs.) But here is the logic behind it never the less. If you sense you have done something wrong then you should realise what it is you have done wrong, because you should be 1.sensitive enough to understand how something could have hurt them before you did it in the first place but as we all make mistakes you should 2. be intuitive and know your partner's character enough to at least make a good guess at what the general area is from which their upset is arising. The fact that you can't (or appear not to be able to) makes some women feel like you don't really know them deeply. It's just based on an insecurity. Though sometimes it might be due to genuine insensitivity on the man's part.

That'll do for today, I need some testosterone in my evening after that, so I'm off to drool over pictures of Alan Rickman:yes:
Tomorrow: PMS *all male readers suddenly run for cover* - get back here you cowards!


 
 

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deleted user [Visitor]

29/11/07 @ 17:39

i'll read your series with interest and comment if i feel brave enough.

MoonBunnyMoonBunny [Member]
29/11/07 @ 19:05

lol, don't be scared! i'm one of the calm ones i promise!

menhirmenhir [Member]
29/11/07 @ 19:34

My immediate female thought is speak for yourself! But then you are, so that's neutralised that one.

Door Opening issue; I like the door held for me, just as much as I enjoy opening doors for others. It is about manners and caring in my view.

treeman22treeman22 [Member]
02/12/07 @ 21:55

i think you are right,Menhir, MB was trying to give an example but the door holding is just a matter of politeness and I personally do not see any other reason.
Good post MB , i shall keep my eyes wide open for other revealed girls mysteries in the next part of your mini series(it does sound cool tho,mini series, NICE *thumbs up Borat style*)

menhirmenhir [Member]
02/12/07 @ 23:08

Hi treeman, nice to hear from you. There are so many people, of all ages, who just let doors swing,when they know people are either in front or behind them and especially in busy places. I always think that someone who takes that wee bit of thought to check on the well-being of others is a human being.

I'm interested to see where this mini series and MB takes us.

MoonBunnyMoonBunny [Member]
03/12/07 @ 00:39

i think you may both have missed my point about the door holding? not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me but what I meant is that if a man is holding open the door, then he is simply being polite. To assume he is being sexist (ie. hysterical feminism) is stupid, but if (as a simplistic example) he was holding it open because he thought the woman incapable of it, then that is where any possible sexism would lie.

menhirmenhir [Member]
03/12/07 @ 09:43

I think MB, we have your first point, I certainly do and I endorsed with an example of how it is for me.

"Hysterical Feminism" few would take issue with that point, I think, though feminists over time have been referred to as 'hysterical', mostly by the other gender, when they have a) felt threatened by women being assertive b) women demanding basic human rights and being considered people in their own right. I am not aware of men being called "hysterical" when they take direct action, (some of which is diabolical)to get seen and heard.

History is full of 'extremes' of behaviour to make some point or other. In time, when requests/demands are to some degree met, behaviours and actions modify and the next generation, see the developmental action taken by their forebears as 'extreme/hysterical' because they have the benefits of the outcome of the original protest.

I do have a friend who guards her independence ferociously, to the point where if someone quietly does what they see as a useful thing, she may snap like a highly strung pup, if they then look for appreciation from her for something she has not been party to requesting. By the way, she is not highly strung. Then again, I know men who guard their lifestyle equally as strongly and may react similarly in like situations. This tells us a lot about gender reactions and gender behavioural expectations.

It's a big subject MB - good luck!

MoonBunnyMoonBunny [Member]
03/12/07 @ 12:12

glad you didn't misunderstand me :)
i totally agree with you about how conveniently feminism can be referred to as hysterical however. in incidents like for example the door holding, it is certainly taking a feminist attitude too far to assume sexism is at play, but when people take a stand and make themselves heard, i often notice men (including those I know) react negatively and consider them either feminist with that word being a derogatory term, or a pain in the ar*e because they have been forced to listen and either don't want to or don't realise there is an important point being made. I find they don't listen to the point, and concentrate on the fact that 'a woman is complaining again'. Not that I am generalising about all men, I also know plenty of sensible men too!
Your last point was interesting - I wonder how many people are mistaken as hysterical feminists when in fact they are an average woman living their life but with a particularly strong characteristic not related to the issue of feminism at all? To assume that would sexist itself I think?
By the way, I hope you aren't expecting anything wonderful from me - I fear my intellect doesn't quite match the phrase I chose in my post of "mini series"!!! It's really supposed to be a bit of humorous fun taken with a pinch of salt, with a few interesting discussions thrown up. I have a huge workload at college at the moment so I might be a bit neglectful of my posts for a few weeks. If you have any related subjects of interest to you, feel free to form your own part of the 'mini-series'!! ;)

menhirmenhir [Member]
03/12/07 @ 12:22

Hi MB,

You must of course, concentrate on your college work and it will be totally understood that your blog inactivity is for sound reasons.

As and when you post your next thoughts, I and anyone else, can add our tuppenny worth.

If I don't hear from you before the hols, have a good one, enjoy your chocolate fixes, and have a great 2008!

MoonBunnyMoonBunny [Member]
03/12/07 @ 14:12

I'm sure you will hear from me before (procrastination needs!!) but just in case thank you for the good wishes and they very best of seasonal wishes to you and your family :)

menhirmenhir [Member]
03/12/07 @ 17:25

Thank you. :)

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